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Kati Piri, a Dutch member of parliament and former rapporteur on T\u00fcrkiye\u2019s EU accession in the European Parliament, offered a perspective on the current state of EU\u2013T\u00fcrkiye relations to Harici.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ahmetcan Uzla\u015f\u0131k\/ Brussels<\/strong><\/p>\n

Drawing on her experience in foreign affairs, Kati Piri reflects on the political developments in T\u00fcrkiye and the EU\u2019s increasingly transactional stance toward Ankara.<\/p>\n

In this interview, she discusses the challenges of maintaining a values-based foreign policy, the implications of shifting political dynamics in both Europe and T\u00fcrkiye, and the future of cooperation on issues such as migration, defense, and the customs union.<\/p>\n

Kati Piri also shares her views on broader global developments, including the war in Ukraine, the return of Donald Trump, and the rise, and in her view, recent decline, of far-right populism across Europe.<\/p>\n

How do you see the current political developments in T\u00fcrkiye, especially regarding both Imamoglu\u2019s arrest?
\n<\/strong><\/p>\n

Well, to start with, the political witch-hunt against Imamoglu, which led to his arrest, made us very concerned. Although T\u00fcrkiye is still not a full autocracy like Russia, T\u00fcrkiye has turned the page in the wrong direction.<\/p>\n

The European Parliament has concluded that T\u00fcrkiye\u2019s EU accession process is effectively frozen. Given your experience as a former rapporteur, do you think the EU still has a credible and coherent strategy toward T\u00fcrkiye?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I totally understand why the European Parliament said this. How can you say anything else when the main opposition leader is in prison? We didn\u2019t see any positive developments regarding T\u00fcrkiye\u2019s accession over the years. So I fully understand that when it comes to a coherent view of the EU as a whole, which is of course much bigger than the EP, that has been lacking for many years.<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t know how the EU managed to position itself in a way where many Turkish democrats are very disappointed in how the EU positions itself vis-\u00e0-vis the President Erdo\u011fan regime. If you disappoint the people who share European values like rule of law, human rights, etc. in T\u00fcrkiye, then the EU did something wrong.<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t think the EU has a good strategy toward T\u00fcrkiye. I think Europe is very much driven by very short-term personal interests. And now with the war in Ukraine and general security concerns in Europe, if those who are destroying democracy and freedom at home are seen as partners, that is also a threat to Europe. It\u2019s more of a threat than an ally to Europe. In conclusion, Europe\u2019s strategy toward T\u00fcrkiye is very short-sighted. It\u2019s unfortunately been the case for many years.<\/p>\n

There\u2019s a growing sense that the EU is moving away from the accession model and toward a strategic partnership with T\u00fcrkiye. Do you see this as a pragmatic adjustment, or an admission of failure?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Look, on the one hand, you can\u2019t talk about a regime that is destroying democracy in T\u00fcrkiye. In that respect, strategic partnership, I understand it. But also, as Europe, you have a responsibility to your own values.<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t have the feeling that we always stand up for those values or the people who defend them in T\u00fcrkiye. That\u2019s where my main criticism is. I would say since the Syria crisis in 2015, Europe has been pretty silent in my view on the deterioration of democracy in T\u00fcrkiye. Plus, it lost a lot of credibility among democrats in T\u00fcrkiye, which I would say is the largest part of the population, and strengthened the current Turkish government by being silent.<\/p>\n

I think it is in Europe\u2019s and the people of my country\u2019s interest that T\u00fcrkiye is a democracy. Europe, in a way, gave up on that and focused on short-term cooperation like migration.<\/p>\n

Is this why, for example, the EU leaders visited President Erdo\u011fan in the last couple of months, and Hakan Fidan was invited to EU foreign minister meetings? These resumed in 2024 after a long period. Do you think the EU is trying to keep T\u00fcrkiye close on transactional matters like migration and security, not as part of accession, but just as a strategic partner?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Look, in general, I always say that even if we don\u2019t agree with the Turkish government, it is important to convey the message. I\u2019m in favor of meetings and discussions, but you need to have your priorities right and raise your concerns.<\/p>\n

My criticism is that the EU acts like Imamoglu isn\u2019t in prison. Europe forgets that it not only has values but also tools against T\u00fcrkiye. Europe is the biggest investor in T\u00fcrkiye, and it should use this much more smartly than it does now.<\/p>\n

Realistically speaking, not what should be, but what do you think is going to happen? Do you think the EU’s shift to the right, where right-wing politicians prefer transactional deals over full accession, will push T\u00fcrkiye and the EU closer on security or migration cooperation?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Look, I would hope to be close with T\u00fcrkiye, with a democratic T\u00fcrkiye. Because that would be, I think, in the interest of both. Right?<\/p>\n

I don’t think we should get close with a more autocratic T\u00fcrkiye, where it\u2019s normal to jail your opponents. That does not make Europe safer in any way, and it doesn\u2019t make T\u00fcrkiye safer either.<\/p>\n

Having said that, we have an extreme right-wing majority in the Dutch parliament and also a very right-wing government, which is very transactional. But still, when I handed in the motion that we cannot start concluding the customs union as long as the verdicts of the European court is respected.<\/p>\n

So the Dutch parliament will block any progress on this as long as verdicts of the European court are not respected. In that respect, I still see that it won\u2019t be as easy as some people think to convince all 27 countries to forget about democracy in T\u00fcrkiye.<\/p>\n

Ms. Piri, we are witnessing a global geopolitical realignment: the war in Ukraine, a second Trump term, tensions in the Middle East, and the changing situation in Syria. How do you see EU\u2013T\u00fcrkiye relations repositioning within today\u2019s Europe, T\u00fcrkiye, and the broader world order?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Well, I think in general, if you just look at it from a citizen’s point of view, the world has become, in a way, more fragile, and international law is almost out the window.<\/p>\n

I don’t want to see again a world carved up by big powers deciding on zones of interest. I think it’s important that when we see positive developments, and let’s be clear, the disappearance of Assad from Syria is, in itself, a positive development, then it is the obligation of the international community to make sure that an inclusive, democratic process gets a chance in Syria.<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t think we can expect regime change in Russia anytime soon, which means that\u2019s a clear threat. At least, it\u2019s a clear threat that our citizens feel.<\/p>\n

Within NATO, for instance, my country has always relied on our big transatlantic neighbor, the United States. And I think Europe as a whole has come to realize we cannot automatically rely on the Americans anymore.<\/p>\n

Now there’s all this discussion: “We need T\u00fcrkiye because we can\u2019t rely on the Americans. We need them for military cooperation.”<\/p>\n

But the values Ukrainians are defending every day are the values of democracy and freedom. We can only fight this with an alliance where everyone agrees on these values. So if we have a Turkish regime destroying democracy at home, that\u2019s not our ally. These are the powers we are fighting against.<\/p>\n

Perhaps finally, I\u2019d say it\u2019s very important to watch what is happening with populist, extreme right-wing parties in Europe since Trump\u2019s election. They\u2019re all losing, not only in Europe; we saw it in Canada, Romania etc.. People are seeing the consequences in their daily lives, and they don\u2019t want this.<\/p>\n

So you see populist autocratic parties losing across Europe. I cannot imagine that in T\u00fcrkiye the public isn\u2019t showing similar sentiments.<\/p>\n

That\u2019s very interesting, because in Portugal the far-right gained ground recently, and people fear that AfD might even become the first party in Germany in the future. Do you really believe the far-right is losing in Europe?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Let\u2019s see if it stays that way. For now, they are. You saw it in France. You see it in the Netherlands, the far right won the national elections, and they are now declining in the polls.<\/p>\n

Yes, it\u2019s worrying what\u2019s happening in Germany, but clearly, AfD did not win the election. So now it\u2019s up to the government to deliver on people\u2019s concerns and make sure they won\u2019t win the next elections.<\/p>\n

I think there\u2019s a chance for what we call liberal democrats, I even say this as a social democrat, but you see what I mean. It\u2019s not about ideology. It\u2019s about defending international law, rule of law, and human rights.<\/p>\n

This might gain traction again because we\u2019re seeing a moment where the radical right is damaging itself. Trump is damaging the radical right in Europe, and that\u2019s a good thing.<\/p>\n

President Erdo\u011fan recently met with Italian Prime Minister Meloni. She never spoke about democracy in T\u00fcrkiye. He also has good relations with Hungarian Prime Minister Orb\u00e1n and Slovak leader Fico. Do you think this makes EU\u2013T\u00fcrkiye relations more complicated?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I think it\u2019s true there\u2019s an international pack of autocrats. I would say Netanyahu is also linked to the same group. Of course, that\u2019s not where President Erdo\u011fan is aligning himself. But let\u2019s be honest, it\u2019s all the same tendencies, national conservatism, “family values” in a way that excludes minorities, women, all to gain and retain power. That\u2019s the goal.<\/p>\n

To marginalize the democratic part of society. We see this playbook worldwide. It\u2019s time for progressive leaders to work much more closely, internationally, to defend the values our parents and grandparents fought for, which are now under attack.<\/p>\n

This is why I was proud of the PES going immediately to T\u00fcrkiye and standing with the CHP when Imamoglu was arrested. We need to help each other more. I\u2019m sure the general public will turn, and we can win this fight, but we need to stand together.<\/p>\n

I\u2019d like to ask about migration. It seems that the EU, including the Netherlands, is shifting rightward on this. Is there a contradiction between people\u2019s concerns about far-right rise and the fact that Brussels and national governments are implementing similar policies?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Let it be clear, I do not agree with the migration policy of my government. I\u2019m in the main opposition party, and I think what they are doing will neither solve the migration problem nor reduce the number of people coming.<\/p>\n

We have issues with housing. People are waiting two years before their applications are even reviewed. The idea that making it unattractive for migrants will stop them from coming is not based on facts. I\u2019m very worried about the criminalization of people seeking refuge, and how this narrative has gained traction, including in Germany and my country.<\/p>\n

Progressive parties need a clear alternative. Yes, every country has an absorption capacity. But let\u2019s be honest, refugees are not the reason the economy is suffering. The far-right has had too much space to tell people that every problem in their life is caused by refugees. It\u2019s simply not true.<\/p>\n

My final question: What is your and your party\u2019s stance on the ongoing trade war, which Trump recently backed off from a bit, and the issue of increased military spending ahead of the upcoming NATO summit in the Netherlands?<\/strong><\/p>\n

When it comes to the trade war, I think this is a very dangerous development.<\/p>\n

Trump\u2019s economic philosophy is not supported by any serious economist. It damages free trade globally and will also damage the U.S. long-term. Countries may divest from the U.S., making it a poorer country. Starting a trade war with your biggest allies is crazy. Trump is backed by the richest people who want no rules, they want to make more money at the expense of normal people. Europe must be strong, stand together, negotiate as a bloc, and hit back when necessary.<\/p>\n

As for the NATO summit, I see two trends. First, with Russian aggression since the 2022 full-scale invasion, Europe has become less safe. We face daily threats, not tanks in Amsterdam, but cyberattacks, sabotage, Russian ships gathering intelligence. We\u2019re already in a grey zone.<\/p>\n

Second, we cannot take for granted that the U.S. will show up if a NATO country is attacked. So Europe must urgently prepare to defend itself, which we cannot do today without the U.S.
\nThis summit is very important. But it won\u2019t be easy to get all NATO countries on board regarding spending and unity. Let\u2019s be honest, Trump\u2019s values are more aligned with President Putin than with mine.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Kati Piri, a Dutch member of parliament and former rapporteur on T\u00fcrkiye\u2019s EU accession in the European Parliament, offered a perspective on the current state of EU\u2013T\u00fcrkiye relations to Harici. 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