Interview
‘Europe will become completely dependent on the US’
The financial crisis of 2008-9, hyper-financialisation, the war in Ukraine, the economic sanctions against Russia, the rise of the BRICS and the idea that Western civilisation is in ‘decline’… All these are interconnected, and the neo-mercantilist tendencies rising in the US and Europe are both a reaction to and a consequence of all these processes.
The Norwegian political scientist and commentator Glenn Diesen argues in his books and speeches that the political and economic liberal ideas on which Western civilisation was founded are undermining it. According to him, it is essential to strike a balance between traditional values and social ideas and the requirements of modern society, and today’s Russia is moving in this direction and is emerging as the protector of ‘European civilisation’. Western conservatives, who see Russia as a natural ally in this struggle, also want to assert themselves against declining liberalism by returning to traditional Europe.
In your book The Decay of Western Civilisation and Resurgence of Russia (2019) you claim that the internal contradictions within liberal democracy and laissez-faire capitalism shake the foundation of Western civilisation. It sounds a bit like Spenglerian ‘decline of the West.’ Do you think there are similarities between Spenglerian analysis of the Western civilization and yours? Do we live again in a interwar-period-like situation?
Well, yes and no. I do side Spengler actually, but he is not unique in this sense. If we address most of the scholars who look on civilizations, they all tend to, more or less, reach the same conclusion, which is, civilizations end up destroying themselves, often in their excesses. They would exhaust fundamental culture at their core. I do actually side Spengler, but the collapse of the West is perhaps too much. But I think that all after the world order which has been built up around the West, a lot of the key ideas I think have begun to exhaust themselves.
If we look at, for example, political liberalism, with origin from the French Revolution. Remember, there were three slogans: Liberty, Equality and Fraternity or Brotherhood. Now, we tend to build a lot around political liberalism in terms of almost radical individualism. But what we forget is that the third part of the slogan, which is Brotherhood. I think that this is a reference to the unity of society. This is a kind of fundamental of sociology which is that we have to find a balance between the individual and the group. Once you have radical individualism, it begins to tear away at the common group identity, and eventually, it will fragment the group.
It is not just political liberalism I do see some weaknesses, but also economic liberalism. Again, this has been a challenge since the industrial revolution when capitalism was introduced. We always recognize that unfettered markets are deeply problematic because society becomes an appendage to the market in which the traditional community weakens severely. There has been a recognition since 1945 this had to be addressed, that some of the uglier sides of capitalism had to be contained. We had a kind of different form of capitalism until the 1970s and the 1980s in which there was a revert back to the unfettered markets in response to the stagnation of the 70s. And I also point out that a lot of these had been reversed after the Cold War. But I think there was an ideological hubris, the assumption that markets could do everything. These were excesses of liberalism in which both the economic and the political which failed to look at social cohesion. And I think this is what creates a lot of civilizational decay.
Another common aspect which is seen by scholars on civilizations is pointing out that civilizations are a bit like stars. They seem to shine the brightest when they are already dying. This is what we learn back from the Roman Empire as well. When it was at its height, there were a lot of excesses, a lot of self-indulgence which covered up decadence already set in. So yes, that’s one of the themes of the book. I do see this being a key problem.
You depict an international system in which a state needs a balancing act between gemeinschaft and gesellschaft to compete with others. The more markets get global and the state gets smaller, there is an urgent need for a broader state intervention. Do you think recent re-industrialisation and neo-mercantilism debate in the USA and using the so-called Chinese and Russian threat to the West are examples of this oscillation?
I think the return to neomercantilism is simply a reflection of the international distribution of economic power. Because, historically, we see that liberal economic systems evolve or develop when there’s a clear hegemony such as Britain in the 19th century or when the US took over in the 20th century. Under such conditions, the hegemon has an interest in creating trust. Because once there is trust in the international system, countries would not seek to control everything themselves, they would expect more integration, more open borders. And there is an interest for economic hegemon to support this when they are the most powerful.
So, again, with Britain and the US, they embraced liberal economics when they controlled the leading technologies. This is important because it is very ideal to have free markets if you are the economically dominant power. Because, you have the mature industries which are defined by low cost and high quality. And if you compete against the infant markets, the rest of the world, which are defined by low quality and high prices, open markets or unfettered markets and free trade would fill up the demands in other countries.
For example, when the British embraced free markets by repealing the Corn Laws, they were very open in the parliament, saying “Listen, this is great. The rest of the world would be like colonies to us, because they cannot compete against us on the free markets, they depend on us for manufactured goods, and they can do the rest.” This was the same with the United States.
So, there is an incentive to embrace free trade once you are the dominant hegemon. They will use your technologies, they will trust your control over the maritime sea corridors, they will use your banks and currency, so there is an interest in trust.
However, what we always see is new centers of power emerging. This is when the hegemon gets into a dilemma. Would you allow if you were the US, new powers to rise which can challenge the authority, like China? No. At this point, you have to weaken the rise of adversaries. You have to undermine its ability to develop its technological autonomy. You want to threaten its reliance on transportation corridors, undermine its access to the international reserve currency, banks, etc. Not just China, but of course, Russia as well for that sake.
But the problem is once the US begins to weaponize its administrative control over the international economy, it only increases incentives for other countries to decouple. And I guess that’s what we see now. Even the friends of America, be it Turkey or India, would also be punished by the US if they do not follow the unilateral sanctions of the US. The more the US weaponizes its control, the more you will see countries have incentive to move away from it. And I think that’s one of the things we have really seen in this, for example, that not just Russia is being sanctioned, but anyone can have their bank accounts taken away.
So I see liberal economics has been in decline, and when the hegemon goes away we tend to return to neomercantilism in which we reduce our dependence on others, we seek our own currencies, our own technological sovereignty. This is not necessarily a positive thing, as many conflicts can emerge. However, this is where the interests of states line.
So you think that the Biden Administration or who comes next would pursue the same policies against China and Russia.
Yes, I don’t think it matters who sits in the White House. Keep in mind when Trump unleashed all of these economic wars against China, Biden, Clinton, they all said “What is he doing? This is a Cold War.” However, after Trump went out, you have Hillary Clinton writing articles in Foreign Affairs, saying “We need powerful industrial policies,” which is neomercantilism. You take the government to fund your technological advancements, you use your economic resources, align it with state power to weaken adversaries. So, they follow the exact same policies. Whoever comes after Biden, they will do the same.
This is not necessarily in America’s interest. Because they currently are in a dilemma: they can either try to hold on to this unipolar order, even though there are now multipolar realities which they have to address, bu if they try to cling onto this, by preventing the rise of other powers, they would become so abusive, they would only incentivize the rest of the world to do it more, to diversify quicker.
In my opinion, the best policy for the US is to help to facilitate a multipolar system where they have a privileged position, instead of trying to fight it. Because once they fight it, they would see a multipolar world emerging which is in opposition to the US. You see that now with BRICS. They are very specific. They want to stop reliance on the US dollar. All see kind of a common threat from America. This is not what you want. You want to have a multipolar system emerging where the other actors may balance each other, and leave you alone, that is, the United States. They are not doing this at the moment. In my opinion, they do not pursue the ideal policy for the US.
Let me ask about the BRICS summit. Can an enlarging BRICS bloc cope with G7 and NATO?
Yes, I think so. Simply because they tend to follow the same policies which the Americans tried to weaken the British hegemony. Keep in mind that when the British were dominant, especially in the early 1800’s, the Americans developed what they called the American system. They had three main pillars: They said we need a manufacturing industry; we need our own more efficient transportation corridors, roads, and ports; and ofcourse, you have to own your national bank.
We see these same things now coming from China which is obviously leading. First, they seek a very ambitious industrial policy to take the technological leadership in most of the new technologies associated with the fourth industrial revolution. We also see that they are pouring trillions of dollars into the Belt and Road Initiative for physical connectivity, new transportation corridors which are not vulnerable to the US pressure. And, the third is the financial aspect, which is the development of the new national banks, or the new development banks, diversifying away from the US dollar as a currency, but also setting up new payment systems, not being dependent on SWIFT, which can be used as a weapon by the US. So, they are already doing this.
I think that the BRICS becomes an institution to further build on these ideas, that is, brings together the huge amount of the countries which control a lot of the national resources of the world, the populations of the world, lots of the trade. They can set up their own transportation corridors, their own banks, and new technological hubs to cooperate with each other. There is a lot of potential. And I think this is the objective. I would not frame it as an alliance in the same way as the G7, because the G7 works together for a collective hegemony of the West under the US leadership. I think the BRICS is something different. They are facilitating multipolarity which means it does not have to have one dominant power. That is also obvious by the fact that the members they took in. For example, Saudis and Iran are not best of friends. But it is a way of resolving differences, instead of necessarily being dependent on a third party. So I think the BRICS has a lot of potential addressing a real demand which is that we have a unipolar world order developed over the past 30 years which no longer reflects the actual realities that the world has already become multipolar. So we need institutions which reflect this current reality. The Americans will not reform, hence you see parallel institutions appearing to facilitate this transition.
Let me ask you about the Ukrainian War. Why are European governments aligned with the USA on the Ukrainian issue even if European industrial interest contradict with breaking off with Russia? How can this war end? Has the Ukrainian army a chance to win this war?
No, I don’t think so. If we look at the front line, this is a war of attrition which is inaccurately being interpreted too much by territory, but it is a war of attrition which means you seek to exhaust the adversary. If you look at the causality ratios on the front line, the Ukrainian side is suffering greatly.
What we see now is the Ukrainian army is exhausting itself, and the Russians are building up a powerful force in their rear. But Ukraine is also in preparation of a possible war with NATO if it enters the war directly. There are many considerations. But for this reason, there is a necessity for the Russians to hold back a bit as well.
If you just look at the math of it, the attrition rates, with every Russian soldier wounded or killed you have eight on the Ukrainian side. Most casualties in this war are caused by artillery. The Russians have eight to ten times more artillery, we see now eight to ten attrition ratio. So, I don’t see them winning it. Also I see the West having run out of their weapon storage. And also, war fatigue is setting in. The people become less interest in this.
I think that Europe is betting full on this world order based on unipolarity and the endurance of the American hegemony. I think at the beginning of this, the Americans sold to the Europeans this: “We give weapons to Ukranians, we put sanctions on the Russians, by the end of the week the Russian economy will implode, and we will reassert our authority in the international system.There will be no multipolarity.” I think if the Europeans knew what we were getting into at the beginning, we would have been more cautious. Because, what we see now is huge economic problems in Europe, the deindustrialization of Germany. I guess it is very predictable what was going to happen in Europe because we decided to maintain these dividing lines in Europe after the Cold War, and move them closer to Russia which sparked this war. The problem is Europe will be weakened, exhaust itself more, which is bad for both the Europeans and the Russians. Because now, the Europeans will have to withdraw under a bit more US protection, and we already have seen this, they have become more dependent on US security. This means that the Americans have more leverage over the Europeans. Now, they are converting this security dependence into economic loyalties. They told the Europeans to cut themselves off the Russians. Now they are pressuring the Europeans to cut themselves off the Chinese.
What is going to happen with Europe? They are going to be completely dependent on the US which means all these dreams about sovereign autonomy or European independence are gone.
Meanwhile, Russia has other problems as well. It ideally wants to diversify its partnerships, wants to have as many partners as possible so it would not be excessively dependent on anyone. But now, they would be much more dependent on China than they were initially hoping. Still, China is Russia’s most important partner, so they will try to figure this out.
Overall, divided Europe is weakened, it would be more dependent, either on the USA, or on China.
You think that Russia is now balancing two mutually contradictory necessities, namely, ‘irrational’ traditional community and ‘rational’ complex society which mean that it is positioning itself as the defender of European civilisation, contrary to the revolutionary Soviet experiment. Do you suggest that an alliance between ‘populism’ in Europe and Russia can reverse the decline of the West?
I think that having a militarized dividing line in Europe will definitely weaken it, will make this continent into a new Middle East, where great powers use them, and become effectively a chessboard. That is what we already saw with Ukraine. And that problem in Ukraine will spread across Europe.
Russia has its own social problems. Russia is definitely heading towards more conservative stands for many reasons. The key problem with Russian history is it has been a very divided country. It used to live for hundreds of years of Mongol yoke. And then Muscovy. In the 1700s, they reinvented Russia as a European country. They divorced themselves from their own past, changed the alphabet, and the way we dress, we look, we talk. Everything. This splitted Russia in two. You have two ideas about what Russia is. And the Bolshevik Revolution. Now you have the idea of a communist Russia. Then you have the 1990s, the idea of a liberal Russia.
The problem is, once you have such a divided country, you don’t work with your opponents, you seek to crush them. This is not good for democracy, not good for internal cohesion. And you are very vulnerable to having foreign powers to exploit the internal divisions, obviously in the West we attempt to do so. Russia is pursuing this new conservative path in which it seeks to unify the past 1000 years of Russian history.
So effectively doing what Dostoyevsky argued in the 1800s: all these different parts of Russian history are parts of the same Russia. Russia will be European, it will be Eurasian, it will have a socialist past, it has some liberalism. So Russia will largely reject what they consider to be the excesses of liberalism in the West. Because in the West we have a different problem which is why the Russians somewhat compare it to the Bolshevik Revolution in which we are divorcing ourselves from our own past as well.
The liberal nation-state was a very powerful vessel. It was based on the group. Culture, language, all of this clearly create internal cohesion in the group. But at the same time, on this you build on individualism, individual freedom, something that made a very stable and also progressive. But over the past few years, in the West, many people are worried that individualism or liberalism effectively decoupled itself from the nation-states. “We don’t need national culture, we are multicultural. We don’t need secularism, dividing state and church is not enough, we need to have a radical secularism which we essentially pressure the church out of society altogether. So, a lot of these things cause a lot of division.
What I have said about the possible alignment between Russia and Western conservatives, which I think you can already if you look at especially the American conservatives, be it Trump or Tucker Carlson. Maybe to a lesser extent [Viktor] Orban of Hungary as well. They see this conservative Russia as dealing with the similar challenges as we do. Because after the Cold War, we decided not to unify Europe, but instead redivided it. New dividing line is not communism vs. capitalism, but liberalism vs. authoritarianism. This made Russia our main adversary. Conservatives effectively see Russia as being a conservative state. This changes the divisions altogether. Because if the conflict is between liberalism and conservatism, Russia goes from being our main adversary to a key ally. So, I think that on the ideological basis you see many conservatives now have a common cause with the Russians.
But also beyond this, it is just common sense that the 1990s is over. Any aspirational hegemony has been exhausted. There is a recognition that we have to come to terms with reality. And that reality is, the idea that you can just expand NATO up to the Russian border and this is going to be the recipe for stability is simply not going to happen. So, I think that a lot of things are dividing the West at the moment from this perspective.
Interview
Daniel Davis warns US strategy fails against Iranian defense grid
Retired US Army Lieutenant Colonel and military analyst Daniel Davis discussed the US military operation against Iran, decision-making mechanisms in Washington, US-Israel relations, transformations in modern warfare doctrine, and the global balance of power in an interview with Harici Media.
Answering questions of Harici Editor-in-Chief Tunç Akkoç regarding the Iran war, retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis stated that the US administration lacks an achievable military strategy on the ground. Davis said: “I would say the US has a desire, not a strategy. It wants to subjugate the Iranian side, corner them, seize control of the Strait of Hormuz, prove they pose no threat to anyone in the region, and ensure they never possess nuclear weapons. That is our desire. But there is no strategy to achieve any of these goals.”
Drawing on his past military experience, Davis detailed the geographical and technical challenges on the ground: “As a soldier with direct combat experience, having gained combat experience in some of these mountains between Afghanistan and Pakistan, for example, I know that many of the mountains inside Iran belong to the same mountain category. I knew what a difficult military task it would be to conquer a country as large as most of Western Europe, where such mountain ranges cover the entire western front. Therefore, I knew you could do nothing on the ground. However, I also knew that you could not subjugate a country with this kind of defense capacity and of this nature through air power alone.”
Pointing out that Iran’s defense infrastructure spans many years, Davis continued: “You cannot do this, especially when they have anticipated this for twenty years and made all kinds of preparations by constructing underground caves, production facilities, and storage facilities, and developing production capabilities for their unmanned aerial vehicles and missiles. There is no way you can defeat them. Because such facilities were designed not only to withstand all our strike missiles, such as Tomahawk, Jasmine cruise missiles, PSM, or ATAC, but also to survive. Most are capable of surviving nuclear explosions as well. I have been inside some of these here in the US. I have been in some physically located beneath a mountain. I know they were specifically designed when constructed to withstand the largest nuclear weapons the Soviet Union might possess. The ones there are of the same kind. If you know before embarking on an act of starting a war that the enemy is this large, possesses these types of defenses, and everyone knows these are resistant to our non-nuclear conventional munitions, why would you start a war to force them into something you clearly cannot achieve?”
Addressing the assumptions behind the war decision, Davis said: “I think this is a fantasy stoked by Benjamin Netanyahu. It was said, ‘If we assassinate their leaders, the same thing will happen as happened to Maduro in Venezuela. You went there, captured him, and disabled him; when you did that, you took control of the entire government, they basically handed the country over to you, and the same will happen here.’ Anyone who thinks Venezuela is like Iran has paid attention to nothing. The culture, history, religion, experiences, and everything that has transpired over the last 47 years are radically different from those in Venezuela, and you do not have an insider to facilitate the process as we had in Venezuela. But President Trump appears to have thought this way.”
“When he started the war on February 28, he sealed our fate; we lost this war”
Pointing to inconsistencies in US President Donald Trump’s decisions and the trajectory of the operation, Davis stated: “This situation is proof that he is stuck. Because, in my view, when he started the war on February 28, he sealed our fate. We lost this war. Even if it is ongoing right now, there is no logical way for us to win it. Because we cannot eliminate the trump card held by the Iranian side.”
Stating that military pressure mechanisms are insufficient, Davis explained: “We still have our missiles, aircraft, aircraft carriers, and all such elements. That is why it appears feasible. It is thought, ‘Maybe if we make a good enough deal, or put enough pressure on them, or impose a blockade and leave the public in a dire enough position to change the government’s mind.’ This is a fantasy. This is the only thing President Trump has. Because if he were acting based solely on military reality, strategic reality, and cultural and religious reality, he would know this was an unwise move, but he does not know.”
Describing Trump’s negotiation approach and the breakdown of the reached agreement, Davis used the following expressions: “He is a transactional individual who wants relationships resolved overnight. For example, during the memorandum of understanding period, this duration was to be 60 days. After starting the war, no achievable military objectives remained. Whatever your desires were, you can no longer reach them because you have confronted reality. Now he is trying to find an exit route, but even within this understanding, he cannot arrive at a rational and consistent perspective. Any rational person would think that when the memorandum of understanding was signed on June 17, it provided him with an exit route. You implement the terms of this memorandum, the crisis is resolved, the dual blockade is lifted, and the Strait of Hormuz could reopen.”
Addressing the clauses of the agreement text and subsequent developments, Davis said: “The terms Trump signed stated that Iran had administrative control of the Strait of Hormuz but could not demand any transit fees for 60 days. Iran accepted this, but accepted only one condition: the ‘for 60 days only’ stipulation. Subsequently, they publicly announced that they would collect fees later, but not during these 60 days. The US was not mentioned in the text in any way. We had no say. The authority to decide how operations would run was left to Iran together with Oman. We gave them 30 of the 60 days to prepare their plan for this. But after four or five days passed, the US suddenly declared a new southern corridor together with Oman.”
Detailing the process of reversing the decision, Davis noted: “While a step to reopen the strait had been agreed upon, traffic had risen to approximately one-third of pre-war levels, and many shipments had passed directly on the first day, Trump personally turned back this development toward finding a reasonable exit route from the unfolding disaster. According to reports from some sources in Washington, he came under intense pressure from pro-war figures in his inner circle and those on the Israeli side. He backed down under this pressure and modified the terms by inserting himself into the fifth paragraph. He never made Israel implement the first paragraph, which covered Lebanon and envisioned a ceasefire on all fronts. We did not even give them 30 days; we intervened before five days had passed. Trump has a goal, fails to reach it, puts forward another condition, and then withdraws that as well. He is very easily manipulated; he reaches a decision, then someone speaks with him, and he changes his mind.”
Recalling that a similar situation occurred in relations with Saudi Arabia, Davis said: “He said he made a great deal with Saudi Arabia, and the next day he changed the condition by saying, ‘as long as they sign the Abraham Accords.’ Saudi Arabia, on the other hand, announced that this was not part of the agreement and had never been discussed. This situation shows that President Trump constantly makes concessions when pressured. On this basis, how can any agreement be reached with the US? This situation means that no military or diplomatic exit point remains because he does not permit it.”
“Control is no longer an economic matter; it is a national security imperative”
In response to a question about whether a mutual exit opportunity remains from the current impasse, Davis said: “We had the memorandum of understanding; we had secured this agreement. However, President Trump and his Secretary, Scott Bessent, said, ‘as long as it is a deal we like, we want a new deal.’ You already had a deal; what deal are you talking about now? Why would the Iranian side negotiate a new deal that differs from an agreement made two months ago? This is completely illogical. The Iranian side holds military superiority through its missile cities and half a dozen alternative methods to control the strait. As their official authorities stated on social media, control of the strait is no longer merely an economic matter; it is a national security imperative because it is the only tool with which they can balance their American adversary, who is far stronger militarily.”
Evaluating the impact of the oil crisis, Davis stated: “Strategic Petroleum Reserves are declining. This situation has prevented a crisis so far, but it cannot cover products like jet fuel, diesel, and fertilizer. If it continues this way and the problem is postponed, the reserves will be depleted one day, and economic activity cannot be sustained without oil. Pressure is on President Trump, and the Iranian side is aware of this. They know the blockade will harm them, but they have calculated that they can endure much longer and deeper pain than our side. This is an existential matter; they know that if they surrender their only trump card to an unpredictable president, they will be attacked again later.”
“Reflexive support for Israel in society has been broken”
Touching upon relations between the US and Israel, Davis said a clear divergence has begun in American society. Davis noted: “In the past, across all segments of society and all generations, it was reflexively said, ‘Of course we are pro-Israel, they are our democratic ally.’ This situation continued until the Gaza process following October 7. Israel was attacked on October 7, and no one found it strange that it responded. However, what happened afterward created problems. Israel used this opportunity to destroy the Gaza Strip, increase pressure in the West Bank, bring in new settlers, and discuss annexation.”
Describing the rift between political elites and the public, Davis explained: “There is a major divide in America. Elites are unaffected by genocide or the killing of women and children in the West Bank and Gaza; they close their eyes, arguing that Israel is an ally. However, the eyes of the American public are not closed. They see human suffering on social media and do not carry the memorized assumptions of the past. These elites are not merely bought with money; for decades, they genuinely believed that our interests and Israel’s interests were one and the same. In their minds, saying something negative about Israel is equivalent to saying something negative about the US. Younger generations in particular, and a growing portion of all generations, recognize that our interests are not the same.”
Drawing attention to the cost of the war to the US, Davis noted: “We elected President Trump to apply the America First principle, not Israel first, Britain first, or Germany first. There is anger against those who sacrificed America’s needs by entering the war. According to figures reflected in the public domain, at least 600 Americans were injured; according to what I have heard, this number is over a thousand. Money has been spent, our facilities have been damaged, and our aircraft destroyed; around 40 to 50 of our aircraft were damaged or destroyed. Our bases were ruined and will likely never be rebuilt. We have also lost our geopolitical influence in the region. I doubt that relations with Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, and Kuwait can return to their former state. Because the foundational assumption of this entire structure was that we could protect them; we could not even protect ourselves.”
“We are still living as if it were 1992”
Evaluating the shift in military technology, Davis stated that the US has lost its traditional military superiority. Davis said: “A large number of people in America are still living as if it were 1992. The Soviet Union had just collapsed, China was a peasant army developing militarily and economically, and we held absolute dominance following Operation Desert Storm. We are no longer in 1992. The Russians corrected their mistakes after the initial phase of the Ukraine war in 2022; they became a much stronger land force, missile, and drone force. China, meanwhile, reached immense technological and industrial capacity.”
Explaining the current situation through the example of Iran, Davis said: “We thought we could crush Iran like a fly, but we could not do so due to their missile cities and technologies. If we cannot eliminate Iran, what can we do against China or Russia, which possess power far beyond that? We have fallen behind in categories such as hypersonic missiles and the new Oreshnik missile. When I saw the Bayraktar TB2 vehicles used by the Turks in the 2020 Armenia-Azerbaijan war, as someone with an armored unit background, I understood that the nature of war had changed. The US, meanwhile, talks about producing 300,000 drones by 2030. In an environment where tactics change every six weeks on the Ukrainian and Russian battlefield, our systems remain extremely slow. Ukrainian soldiers mocked the tank platoon manual published last year, saying that with these methods, one could not survive on the battlefield for even ten minutes.”
“The idea of containing China is a fantasy”
Criticizing the US military approach toward China, Davis evaluated: “There is talk of a strategy to militarily contain China. Will you prevent their activities within their own borders, their technological developments, or the expansion of their military? You cannot stop a country with a strong economy and a massive population. We can achieve no result other than entering a war with China in the Asia-Pacific region and losing it. China’s shipbuilding capacity is approximately 200 times ours; they are vastly superior to us in artillery ammunition, aircraft, and missile production. Our methods left over from the Cold War no longer work. What we need to do is keep our own defense strong and ensure deterrence, not spend billions of dollars in the region to establish forward bases that will be hit.”
Touching upon the potential for diplomatic relations between the two countries, Davis said: “I think President Trump personally knows that going to war with China is unwise. However, the Pentagon and the military-industrial complex view China as a constant enemy, demanding more budget, more bases, and more missiles every year. No one considers diplomacy. Yet we can develop peaceful, stable relations with China based on mutual benefit, even if not friendly. Regarding Taiwan as well, I think leaders realize after seeing what occurred in the Middle East and Ukraine that help will not come, and they will adopt a more cooperative stance by withdrawing independence rhetoric. China does not want to start a war; it desires a model similar to Hong Kong. Even if a conflict breaks out in the worst-case scenario, it is between China and Taiwan; the US should not choose to join the war and lose.”
Emphasizing that the arms lobby inside the US maintains its power, Davis stated: “The military-industrial complex remains extremely powerful and holds all levers of power. They maintain control through members of Congress, the media, and public relations networks; I see no sign that this structure is weakening.”
“They did not want someone who would tell the truth about Israel”
Providing information about the process surrounding the cancellation of his appointment within the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Davis recounted the issue in these words: “When Tulsi Gabbard came to me and asked me to become the number three executive in the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, I said I would be honored to serve my country. However, I stated that I had openly opposed the policies pursued by Israel since October 7 and the war in Gaza and Lebanon, and that these views might not be welcomed within the administration. She thought my accurate past analyses would compensate for this situation. One of my duties was to present the daily intelligence briefing to the president.”
Describing the stage at which his candidacy was withdrawn, Davis said: “Articles against me appeared in the Israeli press and American media. I never hid my views; I said Benjamin Netanyahu’s policies were harming Israel and dragging us down as well. I advocate the ‘America First’ principle, but there are many people within the administration who say ‘Israel First’ and have zero tolerance for any criticism directed at Netanyahu. They did not want someone who would tell the truth regarding Israel. The process expanded following posts by figures like Laura Loomer. On the day I passed the CIA polygraph test and was set to begin duty, Susie Wiles was informed that I had put the president in a difficult position regarding the Russia-Ukraine war. While Trump was saying there would be a ceasefire, I stated on my program that Vladimir Putin would not agree to a ceasefire given his current advantage. Although I stated that I supported a ceasefire, this was made a pretext, and my appointment offer was withdrawn,” completing the interview.
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Quincy Institute expert says the United States had no plan B
In an interview with Harici Media, Trita Parsi, Executive Vice President of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, stated that global unipolarity is coming to an end, transitioning into an increasingly multipolar order.
Parsi addressed shifting global power dynamics, US foreign policy toward China, structural domestic pressures in Washington, and the strategic miscalculations surrounding the ongoing US conflict with Iran.
Parsi noted that while many analysts declare the arrival of a post-American world, the transition will not be an abrupt moment. Instead, he described a phased emergence where it becomes clear that no single superpower possesses deterministic influence over global affairs.
Parsi observed that many governments have been slow to internalize this reality or adjust their policies accordingly, creating the superficial illusion that a unipolar system remains intact. “Whether it’s fully multipolar or other configurations, we can be debated. What I think is clear is that the unipolarity is coming to an end,” Parsi said.
“Unipolarity is an aberration, an abnormality”
Regarding Washington’s readiness for a multipolar world, Parsi asserted that the US political establishment remains unprepared and has historically denied the shift. He recalled that during the first two years of the Biden administration, describing the world as multipolar was dismissed as a Russian propaganda narrative.
However, Parsi highlighted a shift under US Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who stated in a February 2025 interview that unipolarity was an anomaly. Parsi explained, “He actually went further. He said that unipolarity is an aberration, an abnormality, a historical accident. If you believe that it’s a historical accident, if you believe that it’s an abnormality, then I think it comes from that, that any effort to try to restore unipolarity should be rejected.”
Addressing US policy toward China, Parsi noted that despite the summit between US President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping in Beijing, there is no structural indication that Washington views Beijing as a potential partner rather than a rival.
He contrasted the Biden administration’s aggressive posture—which assumed an existential struggle for dominance—with the Trump administration’s softer but poorly planned approach.
Parsi argued that neither power can decisively defeat the other, making mutual coexistence and co-governance essential to avoid a catastrophic zero-sum confrontation.
“An effort to indefinitely contain China is a recipe for disaster”
Parsi rejected the feasibility of military containment against Beijing, warning of severe consequences. “I think an effort to indefinitely contain China is a recipe that will bring about great power competition and a confrontation between the US and China that is going to be completely disastrous,” Parsi stated.
He observed that despite significant US strategic errors, such as the conflict with Iran, China has exercised restraint rather than exploiting American vulnerabilities. Parsi argued that if Beijing were dead-set on aggressive power competition, it would have acted differently.
Economically, Parsi argued that containing China through tariffs or Soviet-era containment models is a losing proposition.
Unlike the Soviet Union, which maintained an isolated economic model, China is deeply integrated into global trade and serves as the primary trading partner for most nations, including those in Latin America such as Brazil. Parsi emphasized that economic containment is unviable against a state with such vast global integration.
“This confrontation will be the deadliest conflict in human history”
Evaluating the risk of the “Thucydides Trap,” Parsi criticized the Washington foreign policy establishment for its structural inability to envision peaceful coexistence.
He noted that the political culture in Washington is built around zero-sum competition and conflict rather than diplomatic management.
Parsi emphasized that while historical precedents exist, humanity is not bound to repeat them, particularly when the stakes involve existential risks. Parsi warned that an unmanaged confrontation between the US and China “would be the deadliest conflict in human history if it is allowed to happen,” threatening human survival itself.
Parsi attributed this narrow strategic focus to structural domestic forces, particularly the US military-industrial complex and influential lobbying groups. Working alongside the grand strategy of liberal hegemony, these forces require US military dominance worldwide, especially in Asia.
Parsi explained that institutional inertia makes it extraordinarily difficult for Washington to alter its strategic trajectory.
“The US had an unrealistic plan A and no plan B”
Turning to the conflict with Iran, Parsi asserted that Washington lacks a coherent strategy, having relied on an unrealistic plan that failed within the first three days.
He stated that the US expected a swift regime collapse or surrender within four days, but faced horizontal escalation from Iran, including threats to the Strait of Hormuz and regional strikes.
“The United States had a very unrealistic plan A and no plan B, and it’s been stuck in that situation ever since,” Parsi said, adding that Washington has been improvising and executing tactical operations without strategic success.
Parsi attributed President Trump’s shifting decisions on Iran to this absence of strategy and his personal demand for immediate results. When military action failed to yield swift progress, Trump turned to diplomacy, only to lose patience within three weeks and resume military strikes. Parsi questioned whether the global community could afford a superpower acting in such an erratic manner.
“Without Israel’s push, there would not have been a war with Iran”
Addressing Israel’s role, Parsi stated that Israeli pressure was a decisive factor in driving US policy toward confrontation with Iran.
“Without Israel’s push, there would not have been a war with Iran. Without Trump agreeing to the Israelis, there would not have been a war with Iran. Both of them were needed,” Parsi remarked, noting that Israeli efforts since 1995 elevated Iran into a primary US national security concern disproportionate to actual US interests in the region.
Parsi identified a growing divergence between US and Israeli interests in the Middle East. While the US benefits from reducing its regional military footprint of 50,000 troops, Israel requires continuous US military presence and intervention to maintain a favorable regional balance of power.
Parsi noted that this divergence has created a visible rift between Washington and Tel Aviv following the poor execution of the war and subsequent diplomatic maneuvers.
“Israel’s standing amongst the American public has plummeted”
Parsi highlighted a major shift in American public opinion regarding Israel, noting that sympathy for Palestinians has surpassed sympathy for Israel across almost every demographic category, except Republicans over the age of 65.
He attributed this decline directly to Israel’s military actions in Gaza and its perceived role in drawing the US into a disastrous war with Iran, which mirrored earlier public grievances over the Iraq War.
Regarding a resolution to the conflict, Parsi stated that a dignified exit for both the US and Iran remains possible, though the window is narrowing due to personal hostility and political miscalculations.
Finally, addressing Trump’s political image, Parsi clarified that Trump was never strictly anti-war, but rather anti-risk.
He explained that Trump entered the conflict because Israeli officials convinced him that war with Iran posed little risk and would be concluded within 100 hours. Parsi concluded that had Trump not been misled into believing the operation would be a swift success, he would not have initiated it.
Interview
Why did Trump step back from a decision to launch a new attack on Iran?
Conflicting statements from the US and Iran regarding the potential resumption of diplomatic negotiations have emerged, while ongoing tensions in the Strait of Hormuz have once again brought global energy concerns to the fore.
Addressing these developments on the Harici live broadcast of Strategic Compass, international relations scholar Prof. Dr. Hasan Unal and Alptekin Dursunoglu, journalist, author, and Editor-in-Chief of Yakin Dogu Haber (YDH), evaluated the internal, regional, and strategic dimensions of the conflict. The discussion focused on the shift in Iran’s military doctrine, the political strain within the US administration, the economic vulnerability of Gulf monarchies, and the broader realignments reshaping Middle Eastern geopolitics.
Why did Trump step back from a decision to launch a new attack on Iran?
Opening the discussion, Prof. Dr. Hasan Unal offered a sharp critique of the political rhetoric originating from Washington, contrasting executive declarations with the tactical outcomes on the ground. Unal argued that public statements made by former US President Donald Trump increasingly lack analytical consistency, complicating efforts to decipher official US strategy.
“He has reached a point where he tells more lies than the daily meowing of stray cats,” Unal remarked during the broadcast. “I do not know which part of his statements we ought to analyze, but if we evaluate him within a broader framework, it becomes possible to reach certain conclusions.”
Unal described the military confrontation between Washington and Tehran as an uneven cycle of escalation, noting that US forces continue to suffer casualties and incur immense financial costs without altering the strategic baseline. “The situation has effectively transformed into something like a defeated wrestler who never grows tired of wrestling; America repeatedly approaches and confronts Iran, yet the outcome is obvious from the outset,” Unal stated. He added that American military personnel are being deployed into conflict zones where national interests remain obscure: “I am certain that American soldiers there largely believe they have no personal interests at stake… and that it serves at most the interests of Israel.”
Dursunoglu contextualised the current phase of hostilities as part of an extended campaign, comparing the recent clashes to a second round of a broader regional conflict following earlier engagements in 2025. He noted that despite assertive claims from Washington regarding the destruction of Iranian military infrastructure, operational continuity on the Iranian side forced a shift in US messaging.
Reflecting on official declarations from US Central Command (CENTCOM) and executive statements following intensive strikes, Unal highlighted the internal contradictions in Washington’s narrative: “Trump claimed Iranian naval forces were sent to the bottom of the sea, the air force beyond the atmosphere, and the ground forces deep into the magma. Yet suddenly he declared, ‘I have forgiven Iran,’ while CENTCOM figures suggested they had reached ‘target saturation’—as if there was simply nothing left to hit.”
Is Iran insisting on its conditions regarding the Strait of Hormuz?
A central focus of the analysis was Iran’s response mechanism following the breakdown of initial ceasefire frameworks. Dursunoglu highlighted a significant structural transition in Tehran’s military posture, moving from traditional reactive containment to proactive deterrence across multiple theatres.
Dursunoglu pointed out that during the escalation, Iran did not restrict its target matrix to immediate points of contact. Instead, Iranian forces conducted strikes against US installations and logistical networks across the region, including facilities in Bahrain, Kuwait, Jordan, and Oman.
“Iran’s traditional defence doctrine was defensive and based on proportional retaliation,” Dursunoglu explained. “However, after the US halted strikes, Iran proceeded to target assets in Jordan and Kuwait without immediate prior attacks on those specific vectors. This indicates that Iran has begun executing preemptive strikes, effectively adapting its strategic posture.”
Unal underscored the severity of these strikes on regional logistics, noting that Iranian counter-strikes targeted the port of Aqaba and airport infrastructure in Jordan, alongside American operational facilities in the Gulf. “According to the accounts, Iranian forces began hitting American installations in Gulf states and Jordan within minutes of initial strikes, effectively neutralizing the operational depth the US relied upon,” Unal noted.
The operational status of the Strait of Hormuz remains a decisive point of leverage. Under previous draft frameworks negotiated through Omani mediation, administrative oversight of maritime traffic through the Strait was slated to transition to Iran in coordination with regional littoral states. However, subsequent US efforts to establish an independent naval corridor along the Omani coast triggered a fresh wave of Iranian interdictions.
Dursunoglu outlined the ongoing negotiations surrounding the maritime passage, noting that attempts to bypass Iranian oversight proved unviable for commercial shipping. Under the latest proposals under discussion via Omani channels, incoming maritime traffic into the Gulf would pass through Iranian-designated corridors under Iranian authorization, while outgoing traffic would proceed along Omani coastal waters following notification and approval.
“If an agreement is finalized on these terms, it represents an explicit recognition of Iran’s control over the Strait of Hormuz by the US regime,” Dursunoglu said. He noted that while initial terms provided free passage during a temporary 60-day window, long-term frameworks anticipate structured administrative mechanisms for commercial vessels. Unal added: “Whether designated as transit fees, environmental charges, or security provisions, formalizing maritime oversight secures a permanent structural advantage for Tehran.”
Under what conditions will negotiations begin?
The economic ramifications of maritime disruption have also altered the calculations of Gulf export nations. Following attempts by Saudi Arabia to engage Ansar Allah (Houthi) forces in Yemen, retaliatory actions against critical infrastructure—including the Yanbu crude oil pipeline on the Red Sea—severely constrained alternative export routes.
“By drawing Yemeni forces back into active conflict, Saudi Arabia inadvertently placed its secondary export avenues under direct fire,” Unal observed. “The vulnerability of the Yanbu pipeline demonstrates that reliance on the Gulf cannot be bypassed easily, effectively increasing regional dependence on stability within the Strait.”
Beyond the maritime domain, the broadcast addressed heavy Iranian military engagements in northern Iraq, targeting opposition groups including the Kurdistan Democratic Party of Iran (KDPI), Komala, Pak, and Free Life Party of Kurdistan (PJAK) along the Erbil-Suleimaniyeh axis.
Dursunoglu and Unal noted that cross-border strikes destroyed substantial ammunition depots established near border regions, followed by reported ground operations conducted by specialized Iranian units.
“Iranian special forces executed targeted ground operations across the border,” Dursunoglu stated, pointing to secondary explosions captured in operational footage as evidence of extensive pre-positioned armaments.
Unal noted that these operations underscored the strategic limitations of non-state actors aligned with Washington: “The expectations placed on armed factions in northern Iraq collapsed when confronted with direct military pressure. The narrative that these groups could serve as an internal wedge against Tehran proved to be a costly miscalculation for US planners.”
Reports indicating the start of a repositioning of US personnel and heavy military equipment from bases in Iraq and the Gulf toward Jordan and Israel were identified as a direct consequence of this vulnerability. “US forces are consolidating toward Jordan and Israel because their facilities in Bahrain and Kuwait sustained structural operational damage,” Dursunoglu observed. “When a state can no longer defend its forward command centers—such as the 5th Fleet infrastructure in Bahrain—it is forced to retreat to secondary defensive perimeters.”
How effective is the pressure from Gulf countries for negotiations?
Concluding the evaluation, Unal and Dursunoglu examined the broader diplomatic landscape, focusing on security dialogues among regional powers, including Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan. Both analysts agreed that any sustainable security architecture in the Middle East must incorporate Iran rather than seek its exclusion.
“How can you construct a new regional order by excluding the very nation that demonstrated the capacity to neutralize external military dominance?” Dursunoglu questioned. “An architecture that relies on Western guarantees or Israeli alignment fails to address the underlying security dynamics of the region.”
Unal reflected on the historical trajectories of Turkish foreign policy, criticizing past ideological approaches that fuelled regional fragmentation and sect-based antagonisms. He noted that realpolitik dictates close functional coordination between Ankara and Tehran despite historical differences.
“Iran’s resistance ultimately prevented the imposition of a security framework dictated entirely by external actors,” Unal concluded. “Responsible analysis requires recognizing that stability in the Middle East cannot be achieved through foreign intervention or regional fragmentation, but through direct, autonomous security coordination among the region’s core nations.”
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