Interview
Russian strategist Vasily Kashin: The bridges with Europe have been burned, there’s no way back
Vasily Kashin is the Director of the Centre for Comprehensive European and International Studies at the Higher School of Economics (HSE) in Moscow. Kashin, born in Moscow in 1973, previously worked at leading think tanks such as the Valdai Discussion Club and the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. He is both an academic who knows the West very well and one of Russia’s foremost experts on China. One final point to gauge the weight of his words: in recent times, Kashin has taken part in “track two” diplomacy talks with American counterparts.
Kashin states that Russia’s relations with the West have undergone an irreversible rupture and that the pre-2014 model of relations has completely ended. Describing the old order as a “neo-colonial” structure in which Russia supplied cheap resources and invested the proceeds in the European economy, yet in return had no political say and faced discrimination in areas such as access to technology, Kashin stresses that this system is no longer possible.
Kashin argues that the most important outcome of the war in Ukraine is not territorial gains but the purge of the “globalist and pro-European” elites inside Russia, which he says freed the country from a relationship of dependence. He sees no hope for the future of Russia’s relations with the European Union and says they should not be restored, while he leaves a conditional door open to dialogue with the United States.Kashin spoke to Harici Media in an interview.
Vasily Kashin, who welcomed Harici Medya at the university where he works in Moscow, answered questions from Tunç Akkoç and Mehmet Kıvanç.
Let’s start with relations with the West in general. Do you view the West as a single bloc, or do you assess the United States differently from Europe? How do you see the future of relations between the West and Russia? Is it possible for these relations to return to their former state in the future?
Well, first of all, I think that after this very deep internal political change which happened in the United States, we cannot see the west as a single entity. There are a lot of processes happening simultaneously in the European Union as well, because a number of major European countries are now in state of very deep internal political crisis, notably France, where you have constant changes of cabinets of ministers, very unpopular president, etc. The same in Germany. So they’re all in simultaneous internal political crisis and the outcomes might be different in different countries.
I think that there is certainly no return to the relations which we had with the Western countries before 2022 and even before 2014, the Crimea, because the old model of relations was very closely connected to a specific political economic model which existed in Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union and which is seen by majority of population as extremely bad for countries development and in general illegitimate under that model. Under that political economic model, Russia was a major exporter of primarily energy resources and other natural resources as well, constantly running huge foreign trade and current account surpluses and investing these surpluses huge money, dozens of billions of dollars every year into the economy, primarily into the economy of European Union. So we supplied them with cheap resources, invested much of our profit into their economy, and got nothing in return. Absolutely no, no say in European politics. At the same time, we were heavily discriminated against. There was heavy discrimination against us in terms of access to technology, markets and investment.
If we compare Russia in 2000s with China, which was a communist country with very strong protectionism, China was allowed to buy pretty much anything they wanted in terms of European assets. They could easily buy high tech assets, for example. Even now they control major automakers such as Volvo and Saab. When Russia tried to do something like that, and there was specific case, for example, when Russia tried to buy German automaker Opel in 2000s because Russia wanted to use that to get better access to technology, develop the automotive sector in the country, etc. It was denied on political reasons and there were a number of other cases like that.
The globalist and pro European part of Russian elite was destructed
So it was always a very bad deal in Russia for Russia. And it was based on the influence of very destructive and corrupt part of the Russian elite which was advocating these relations with Europe. I believe the major outcome of the war in Ukraine, in general terms, the one which started in 2014 and escalated in 22, is the destruction of this more globalist and pro European part of Russian political and business elite. Because especially the war of 2022 led to huge redistribution of power and wealth in Russia. Assets worth hundreds of billions of dollars which belong to the global part of the Russian business elite or to the European companies have been either confiscated or the owners were forced to sell them at much depreciated prices. Now different people control them. And no one wants to go back to this semi-colonial old model of Russian European relations. We simply don’t need our relations with Europe to be restored.
You mentioned that certain Russian elites managed or led relations in past years. Do these people still hold important positions in Russia?
Not any longer. Basically, if you watch the news here, every month you see a downfall of one or another person who controlled significant assets and probably played an important role in life of several regions of Russia for decades. Like typically that would be a guy who controlled assets here in Russia and then lived permanently somewhere in Europe and invested the profits he gained here in Russia, there in Europe. Now we don’t need this kind of people here. And usually there are perfectly legal reasons to relieve them of their Russian assets and charge them with some criminal misdeeds which they could probably commit quite long time ago and keep them away from our country. The removal of these people is in fact the main outcome of the current conflict, which is much more important than things which are happening, like in terms of territorial changes in Ukraine or something like that.
About U.S.–Russia relations… After the Alaska meeting, I think there was some general hope, but so far nothing concrete has happened. Now, the discussion seems to focus on sanctions and other issues. How do you foresee the future of relations between the U.S. and Russia?
I think there is still hope for Russian American relations. There’s absolutely no hope for Russian European relations. They will remain bad and they should never improve in the foreseeable future. For the Russian American relations, there is hope, but at the same time we should understand the American logic. They have several goals. First of all, they need to maintain their control over Europe, which is essential for them if they want to continue to fight for global supremacy. They need to navigate their politics among the European elites. They need to improve the credibility of Donald Trump inside of the United States. And there is also issue of specific approach of Donald Trump to deal making. He’s constantly keeping anyone he’s dealing with under pressure. Frequently changes the conditions, the approach seeking to psychologically destabilize the other side.
Russia needs certain conditions met, until then the war continues
So clearly the Americans are interested in ending the Ukrainian war and partly stabilizing their relations with Russia. They’re interested in that for several reasons. One of the reasons is that Ukraine is consuming a lot of resources. Now, in money terms, Europeans are paying the most of it. But there are also other elements of the equation, including the very limited production capacity of the American defense industry, very limited American military resources. And they’re deepening arms race with China, which the United States are currently losing because China is in today’s world, China is industrial superpower number one, which surpasses the United States and Japan taken together by far, probably even United States, Japan and Germany taken together. And that means that he needs to concentrate on Pacific. He also is interested in weakening the political link between Russia and China. He understands that Russia will never oppose China, but he is interested in decreasing the intensity of the security cooperation.
And of course, there is another side of it. Ukraine is actually gradually losing this war. And there is an understanding that as time goes, the conditions for negotiating with Russia would become worse. So what he is trying now is trying to pressure us to make a deal as soon as possible and to make a deal which will not be very good for Russia. What he did now he’s going back to conditions of immediate ceasefire along the current frontline, something which Russia will never accept. Russia needs in order to stop the war… Russia needs a number of very important military political conditions to be met, and that includes Ukraine neutrality, certain limits on the future Ukrainian armed forces, and certain conditions related to the Ukrainian internal politics. For example, the current bans and prohibitions on Russian language and Russian Orthodox Church should be lifted. Until these conditions are met, war continues.
They don’t want bargaining, they want to impose their own onditions
The biggest problem now is because of the American pressure approach, we don’t actually have specific substantial talks, because to start discussing all these issues, we need to create negotiation teams on several baskets because all of them are very complex with Ukraine and with the United States, because even if we talk ceasefire, it’s ceasefire along front line, which is about 2000km long. It’s very complicated technical issue. You need to have teams of military experts who will have highly technical discussions, and that’s not happening. We need people who will discuss future security, what weapons can be deployed, where you also need teams of military experts doing that. You need teams of legal and political experts discussing the political issues. This is not happening. What we have now are just discussions at the very top level because between presidential representatives who are talking about specific, like some very general things. So they are avoiding discussions with us because they don’t want bargaining. They want to impose certain conditions on us. That’s not going to happen. They can increase sanctions. We are ready. They cannot destabilize us with sanctions. Everything basically, which could work was tried by Biden administration. If there is military escalation, then we are ready to any kind of escalation up to nuclear conflict. So we will not back down. So, at some point, I believe Trump understands that and we have some realistic discussion.
One scenario is this, does it seem realistic to you? If, at the end of the day, Trump says the U.S. will no longer support Ukraine but the conflict continues, do you think European involvement in Ukraine can be sustained without the U.S.?
I believe Trump likes to tell us that he has an option of walking out of this conflict. He’s doing this to pressure us. In reality, there is no such option. United States are major participants of this war even if they don’t provide funds to Ukraine. For example, the variability of the Ukrainian armed forces to fight is based on their access to the American satellite reconnaissance data and to American communication satellite infrastructure. The whole command and control system is based on their access to Starlink. And all they have in terms of targeting is based on their access to satellite reconnaissance provided real time and their teams of Americans located in Eastern Europe working on processing all these data flows which are going to the Ukrainian military. There are American Avax planes patrolling, providing Ukrainians with real time radar data which is a major factor for resilience of the Ukrainian air defense system. There are huge amount of American signal intelligence assets deployed in Eastern Europe. Providing Ukrainians with data flows that all costs a lot of money. And he needs all of that somewhere in Asia. He will not be able to move anything to Asia as long as war continues. Because in this case the war effort collapses.
In the longer term, they cannot finance this war
The Europeans have major problems with financial resources. That is why they are discussing the option of stealing frozen Russian assets now. The problem is that if they do so, if they confiscate Russian sovereign assets, that will have impact on behavior of all other countries which are keeping their assets in Europe, including Middle Eastern countries, China and others first. Second, there was huge redistribution of assets inside of Russia, but it’s far from being complete. The Europeans have been accumulating their assets in Russia for three decades. Huge amount. And of course, it’s much more than they can take from us. We will simply confiscate all of this and they will lose it forever. We can think also about some creative ways to increase impact on Europe, maybe doing something with intellectual property rights and other stuff. So they will lose a lot. And their credibility in the eyes of international investors, primarily Middle Eastern countries and East Asian countries, will be damaged and will do everything we can to exacerbate this damage. So they’re still reluctant to do so.
But even if they do so, Ukrainian defense effort alone requires $120 billion for the next year. And apart from that, there will be need in a lot of resources to sustain everyday work of the Ukrainian government. And we are working hard to increase the price because we are conducting bombardment of infrastructure. Almost every major European economy is in debt crisis. And most notably this is France, which has budget disaster. They have huge increase of public debt every month. But all others, including for example, Italy, Spain, even Germany, they’re all in pretty bad shape. They will have to spend huge amount of money. Even if they seize our resources, that will not solve the problem. In the longer term, they cannot finance this war. And they know that perfectly well. And this is why they are trying to escalate pressure and force us to accept this immediate ceasefire.
Trump’s pressure on Türkiye will not bring any results
The next question is about Türkiye. How do you foresee Russia–Türkiye relations, especially over the past year, given Ankara’s improved ties with the West, particularly the Trump administration and the United States, as well as the European Union? President Erdoğan recently visited the White House and signed an important energy deal. In this context, how do you see the future of Russia–Türkiye relations, given that Trump is pressuring Türkiye to reduce or halt energy purchases from Russia?
Well, Türkiye has been focused on increasing its independent role in regional and global politics and in increasing its strategic autonomy. And I believe that Türkiye understands that it can gain much more from keeping the strategic autonomy than from siding with one or another country, especially with Trump, because no one actually knows where Trump will be in three years. And he will try to pressure Türkiye. I don’t think it will bring any results in the long term. Türkiye will be the main channel for the remaining Russian economic relations with Europe, which will still exist in some form, because we cannot fully separate, even in spite of the fact that our political relations are absolutely hostile. At the same time, Türkiye will also need greater industrial and resource cooperation with Russia because Türkiye will be developing its own economy which will require resources, not just energy resources, but many kind of resources. And there will be additional venues for industrial cooperation. We already have nuclear energy cooperation and some forms of defense industrial cooperation that could be increased. So in longer term, as long as Türkiye remains an independent player which is pursuing its own national interest and not controlled by any external force, relations will be developing in generally positive way. We can have different views on some specific issues of Middle Eastern policies or policy on former Soviet space, but it doesn’t change the general picture. The two countries need each other and will make every effort from both sides, I believe, to have these differences contained.
Last questions about China. How do you evaluate the rivalry between the United States and China? Do you expect an escalation, trade war or hot war?
There are very clear signs that both United States and China are expecting this escalation in the coming years. In case of China, it’s translated into very specific political decisions, including increases in stockpiling food and energy resources, which is dramatic during the last several years, changes in legislation which are allowing for additional mobilization of people and resources, holding economic mobilization exercises every year, increasing purely military activities, strengthening energy cooperation with Russia and Central Asia to ensure energy flows and many other moves besides. We should always remember that right now China is turning into third nuclear superpower in the world. They’re adding possibly hundreds of nuclear warheads every year. They’re already much more significant in terms of their nuclear capabilities than France and UK Taken together and they will probably be absolutely comparable to basically on the same level with US and Russia in early 2030s. That means that the whole logic of this rivalry changes.
China has very high probability of winning a regional war
At some point there will be a resembling situation in Europe. Now United States and other NATO members want to oppose Russia in Ukraine, but they don’t dare to do anything directly. They can only work by the hands of Ukrainians. They can provide them with information, weapons guidance, etc. But they are not capable to fight Russia directly because they are afraid of nuclear escalation. Sooner or later we’ll see the similar picture in Asia. The difference is that in terms of resources, in terms of production capacity of defense industry, for example, in terms of size of economy, Russia is smaller than United States and of course smaller than European Union. China is having much more industrial capacity than the United States. And in some key areas which are the most important for today’s defense, China is having more resources than the rest of the world combined. For for example, in 2021, China controlled 80% of global production of small UAVs. And even now, almost all of the UAVs which are being used by both Russia and Ukraine in war are produced with major use of Chinese components, which includes microchips, small electric motors, controllers, accumulators, etc. In today’s war, as we know from the war in Ukraine, small attack UAVs, primarily FPV drones, are accounted for 80% of casualties, they are single most important instrument of war. And China is controlling the global production chains. It’s like situation like if we in early 20th century, prior to World War I, one country controlled like 80% of production of, you know, artillery shells. That would be a pretty predictable war in this case. Yes. So now we are having this situation.
Now it’s hard to judge the combat capabilities of the PLA because they have not been engaged in combat since late 80s. But in terms of defense industrial capacity, they have made it. They’re much stronger actually than the United States. And they have very high probability of winning regional war. Especially if the United States cannot fight directly and will try to supply someone there. Nothing compared to China in terms of production of certain types of weapons. So yeah, there will be a major conflict and they will carefully choose the timing and they will strike and probably they will win.
What does the alliance between Russia and China means for the world, not only for Russia, but for the future of the world and for the international community?
It’s still not an alliance in Western terms. We are not closely aligned on all of the issues. Most importantly, we don’t have aligned policies in issues of the Asian politics. Russia has very close relations with India, for example, and Vietnam. Both India and Vietnam have territorial disputes with China and they consider China as a possible threat. Yet they are sourcing most of their weapons from Russia. Russia is main partner of India in terms of defense industry and supplying a lot of weapons to Vietnam. And this is one example how Russia is working completely independently from China.
There are scenarios under which we will fight together with China against USA
Russia and China have common positions on issues of global governance because we both want to have the role of US and EU greatly reduced. This is first thing. Second, we are jointly opposing United States claims for global dominance. These are our common goals in global politics. And of course there is common border, common interest in security in neighboring areas and very good convergence of economies because we produce resources and Chinese having the greatest manufacturing base in the world. These are the pillars of our relations. We will never go against each other. It doesn’t mean that we will always align because, for example, Chinese are still interested in having good relations with European Union. The Europeans are rejecting them because they’re told by the Americans to do so. And they started confiscating Chinese assets in Europe, like what happened in Netherlands with Nexperia. But the Chinese are still trying to engage them. Russia is not trying to engage European Union. So there are differences, but there’s very close partnership and there are scenarios under which we will fight together against the United States.
Interview
Daniel Davis warns US strategy fails against Iranian defense grid
Retired US Army Lieutenant Colonel and military analyst Daniel Davis discussed the US military operation against Iran, decision-making mechanisms in Washington, US-Israel relations, transformations in modern warfare doctrine, and the global balance of power in an interview with Harici Media.
Answering questions of Harici Editor-in-Chief Tunç Akkoç regarding the Iran war, retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis stated that the US administration lacks an achievable military strategy on the ground. Davis said: “I would say the US has a desire, not a strategy. It wants to subjugate the Iranian side, corner them, seize control of the Strait of Hormuz, prove they pose no threat to anyone in the region, and ensure they never possess nuclear weapons. That is our desire. But there is no strategy to achieve any of these goals.”
Drawing on his past military experience, Davis detailed the geographical and technical challenges on the ground: “As a soldier with direct combat experience, having gained combat experience in some of these mountains between Afghanistan and Pakistan, for example, I know that many of the mountains inside Iran belong to the same mountain category. I knew what a difficult military task it would be to conquer a country as large as most of Western Europe, where such mountain ranges cover the entire western front. Therefore, I knew you could do nothing on the ground. However, I also knew that you could not subjugate a country with this kind of defense capacity and of this nature through air power alone.”
Pointing out that Iran’s defense infrastructure spans many years, Davis continued: “You cannot do this, especially when they have anticipated this for twenty years and made all kinds of preparations by constructing underground caves, production facilities, and storage facilities, and developing production capabilities for their unmanned aerial vehicles and missiles. There is no way you can defeat them. Because such facilities were designed not only to withstand all our strike missiles, such as Tomahawk, Jasmine cruise missiles, PSM, or ATAC, but also to survive. Most are capable of surviving nuclear explosions as well. I have been inside some of these here in the US. I have been in some physically located beneath a mountain. I know they were specifically designed when constructed to withstand the largest nuclear weapons the Soviet Union might possess. The ones there are of the same kind. If you know before embarking on an act of starting a war that the enemy is this large, possesses these types of defenses, and everyone knows these are resistant to our non-nuclear conventional munitions, why would you start a war to force them into something you clearly cannot achieve?”
Addressing the assumptions behind the war decision, Davis said: “I think this is a fantasy stoked by Benjamin Netanyahu. It was said, ‘If we assassinate their leaders, the same thing will happen as happened to Maduro in Venezuela. You went there, captured him, and disabled him; when you did that, you took control of the entire government, they basically handed the country over to you, and the same will happen here.’ Anyone who thinks Venezuela is like Iran has paid attention to nothing. The culture, history, religion, experiences, and everything that has transpired over the last 47 years are radically different from those in Venezuela, and you do not have an insider to facilitate the process as we had in Venezuela. But President Trump appears to have thought this way.”
“When he started the war on February 28, he sealed our fate; we lost this war”
Pointing to inconsistencies in US President Donald Trump’s decisions and the trajectory of the operation, Davis stated: “This situation is proof that he is stuck. Because, in my view, when he started the war on February 28, he sealed our fate. We lost this war. Even if it is ongoing right now, there is no logical way for us to win it. Because we cannot eliminate the trump card held by the Iranian side.”
Stating that military pressure mechanisms are insufficient, Davis explained: “We still have our missiles, aircraft, aircraft carriers, and all such elements. That is why it appears feasible. It is thought, ‘Maybe if we make a good enough deal, or put enough pressure on them, or impose a blockade and leave the public in a dire enough position to change the government’s mind.’ This is a fantasy. This is the only thing President Trump has. Because if he were acting based solely on military reality, strategic reality, and cultural and religious reality, he would know this was an unwise move, but he does not know.”
Describing Trump’s negotiation approach and the breakdown of the reached agreement, Davis used the following expressions: “He is a transactional individual who wants relationships resolved overnight. For example, during the memorandum of understanding period, this duration was to be 60 days. After starting the war, no achievable military objectives remained. Whatever your desires were, you can no longer reach them because you have confronted reality. Now he is trying to find an exit route, but even within this understanding, he cannot arrive at a rational and consistent perspective. Any rational person would think that when the memorandum of understanding was signed on June 17, it provided him with an exit route. You implement the terms of this memorandum, the crisis is resolved, the dual blockade is lifted, and the Strait of Hormuz could reopen.”
Addressing the clauses of the agreement text and subsequent developments, Davis said: “The terms Trump signed stated that Iran had administrative control of the Strait of Hormuz but could not demand any transit fees for 60 days. Iran accepted this, but accepted only one condition: the ‘for 60 days only’ stipulation. Subsequently, they publicly announced that they would collect fees later, but not during these 60 days. The US was not mentioned in the text in any way. We had no say. The authority to decide how operations would run was left to Iran together with Oman. We gave them 30 of the 60 days to prepare their plan for this. But after four or five days passed, the US suddenly declared a new southern corridor together with Oman.”
Detailing the process of reversing the decision, Davis noted: “While a step to reopen the strait had been agreed upon, traffic had risen to approximately one-third of pre-war levels, and many shipments had passed directly on the first day, Trump personally turned back this development toward finding a reasonable exit route from the unfolding disaster. According to reports from some sources in Washington, he came under intense pressure from pro-war figures in his inner circle and those on the Israeli side. He backed down under this pressure and modified the terms by inserting himself into the fifth paragraph. He never made Israel implement the first paragraph, which covered Lebanon and envisioned a ceasefire on all fronts. We did not even give them 30 days; we intervened before five days had passed. Trump has a goal, fails to reach it, puts forward another condition, and then withdraws that as well. He is very easily manipulated; he reaches a decision, then someone speaks with him, and he changes his mind.”
Recalling that a similar situation occurred in relations with Saudi Arabia, Davis said: “He said he made a great deal with Saudi Arabia, and the next day he changed the condition by saying, ‘as long as they sign the Abraham Accords.’ Saudi Arabia, on the other hand, announced that this was not part of the agreement and had never been discussed. This situation shows that President Trump constantly makes concessions when pressured. On this basis, how can any agreement be reached with the US? This situation means that no military or diplomatic exit point remains because he does not permit it.”
“Control is no longer an economic matter; it is a national security imperative”
In response to a question about whether a mutual exit opportunity remains from the current impasse, Davis said: “We had the memorandum of understanding; we had secured this agreement. However, President Trump and his Secretary, Scott Bessent, said, ‘as long as it is a deal we like, we want a new deal.’ You already had a deal; what deal are you talking about now? Why would the Iranian side negotiate a new deal that differs from an agreement made two months ago? This is completely illogical. The Iranian side holds military superiority through its missile cities and half a dozen alternative methods to control the strait. As their official authorities stated on social media, control of the strait is no longer merely an economic matter; it is a national security imperative because it is the only tool with which they can balance their American adversary, who is far stronger militarily.”
Evaluating the impact of the oil crisis, Davis stated: “Strategic Petroleum Reserves are declining. This situation has prevented a crisis so far, but it cannot cover products like jet fuel, diesel, and fertilizer. If it continues this way and the problem is postponed, the reserves will be depleted one day, and economic activity cannot be sustained without oil. Pressure is on President Trump, and the Iranian side is aware of this. They know the blockade will harm them, but they have calculated that they can endure much longer and deeper pain than our side. This is an existential matter; they know that if they surrender their only trump card to an unpredictable president, they will be attacked again later.”
“Reflexive support for Israel in society has been broken”
Touching upon relations between the US and Israel, Davis said a clear divergence has begun in American society. Davis noted: “In the past, across all segments of society and all generations, it was reflexively said, ‘Of course we are pro-Israel, they are our democratic ally.’ This situation continued until the Gaza process following October 7. Israel was attacked on October 7, and no one found it strange that it responded. However, what happened afterward created problems. Israel used this opportunity to destroy the Gaza Strip, increase pressure in the West Bank, bring in new settlers, and discuss annexation.”
Describing the rift between political elites and the public, Davis explained: “There is a major divide in America. Elites are unaffected by genocide or the killing of women and children in the West Bank and Gaza; they close their eyes, arguing that Israel is an ally. However, the eyes of the American public are not closed. They see human suffering on social media and do not carry the memorized assumptions of the past. These elites are not merely bought with money; for decades, they genuinely believed that our interests and Israel’s interests were one and the same. In their minds, saying something negative about Israel is equivalent to saying something negative about the US. Younger generations in particular, and a growing portion of all generations, recognize that our interests are not the same.”
Drawing attention to the cost of the war to the US, Davis noted: “We elected President Trump to apply the America First principle, not Israel first, Britain first, or Germany first. There is anger against those who sacrificed America’s needs by entering the war. According to figures reflected in the public domain, at least 600 Americans were injured; according to what I have heard, this number is over a thousand. Money has been spent, our facilities have been damaged, and our aircraft destroyed; around 40 to 50 of our aircraft were damaged or destroyed. Our bases were ruined and will likely never be rebuilt. We have also lost our geopolitical influence in the region. I doubt that relations with Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, and Kuwait can return to their former state. Because the foundational assumption of this entire structure was that we could protect them; we could not even protect ourselves.”
“We are still living as if it were 1992”
Evaluating the shift in military technology, Davis stated that the US has lost its traditional military superiority. Davis said: “A large number of people in America are still living as if it were 1992. The Soviet Union had just collapsed, China was a peasant army developing militarily and economically, and we held absolute dominance following Operation Desert Storm. We are no longer in 1992. The Russians corrected their mistakes after the initial phase of the Ukraine war in 2022; they became a much stronger land force, missile, and drone force. China, meanwhile, reached immense technological and industrial capacity.”
Explaining the current situation through the example of Iran, Davis said: “We thought we could crush Iran like a fly, but we could not do so due to their missile cities and technologies. If we cannot eliminate Iran, what can we do against China or Russia, which possess power far beyond that? We have fallen behind in categories such as hypersonic missiles and the new Oreshnik missile. When I saw the Bayraktar TB2 vehicles used by the Turks in the 2020 Armenia-Azerbaijan war, as someone with an armored unit background, I understood that the nature of war had changed. The US, meanwhile, talks about producing 300,000 drones by 2030. In an environment where tactics change every six weeks on the Ukrainian and Russian battlefield, our systems remain extremely slow. Ukrainian soldiers mocked the tank platoon manual published last year, saying that with these methods, one could not survive on the battlefield for even ten minutes.”
“The idea of containing China is a fantasy”
Criticizing the US military approach toward China, Davis evaluated: “There is talk of a strategy to militarily contain China. Will you prevent their activities within their own borders, their technological developments, or the expansion of their military? You cannot stop a country with a strong economy and a massive population. We can achieve no result other than entering a war with China in the Asia-Pacific region and losing it. China’s shipbuilding capacity is approximately 200 times ours; they are vastly superior to us in artillery ammunition, aircraft, and missile production. Our methods left over from the Cold War no longer work. What we need to do is keep our own defense strong and ensure deterrence, not spend billions of dollars in the region to establish forward bases that will be hit.”
Touching upon the potential for diplomatic relations between the two countries, Davis said: “I think President Trump personally knows that going to war with China is unwise. However, the Pentagon and the military-industrial complex view China as a constant enemy, demanding more budget, more bases, and more missiles every year. No one considers diplomacy. Yet we can develop peaceful, stable relations with China based on mutual benefit, even if not friendly. Regarding Taiwan as well, I think leaders realize after seeing what occurred in the Middle East and Ukraine that help will not come, and they will adopt a more cooperative stance by withdrawing independence rhetoric. China does not want to start a war; it desires a model similar to Hong Kong. Even if a conflict breaks out in the worst-case scenario, it is between China and Taiwan; the US should not choose to join the war and lose.”
Emphasizing that the arms lobby inside the US maintains its power, Davis stated: “The military-industrial complex remains extremely powerful and holds all levers of power. They maintain control through members of Congress, the media, and public relations networks; I see no sign that this structure is weakening.”
“They did not want someone who would tell the truth about Israel”
Providing information about the process surrounding the cancellation of his appointment within the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Davis recounted the issue in these words: “When Tulsi Gabbard came to me and asked me to become the number three executive in the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, I said I would be honored to serve my country. However, I stated that I had openly opposed the policies pursued by Israel since October 7 and the war in Gaza and Lebanon, and that these views might not be welcomed within the administration. She thought my accurate past analyses would compensate for this situation. One of my duties was to present the daily intelligence briefing to the president.”
Describing the stage at which his candidacy was withdrawn, Davis said: “Articles against me appeared in the Israeli press and American media. I never hid my views; I said Benjamin Netanyahu’s policies were harming Israel and dragging us down as well. I advocate the ‘America First’ principle, but there are many people within the administration who say ‘Israel First’ and have zero tolerance for any criticism directed at Netanyahu. They did not want someone who would tell the truth regarding Israel. The process expanded following posts by figures like Laura Loomer. On the day I passed the CIA polygraph test and was set to begin duty, Susie Wiles was informed that I had put the president in a difficult position regarding the Russia-Ukraine war. While Trump was saying there would be a ceasefire, I stated on my program that Vladimir Putin would not agree to a ceasefire given his current advantage. Although I stated that I supported a ceasefire, this was made a pretext, and my appointment offer was withdrawn,” completing the interview.
Interview
Quincy Institute expert says the United States had no plan B
In an interview with Harici Media, Trita Parsi, Executive Vice President of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, stated that global unipolarity is coming to an end, transitioning into an increasingly multipolar order.
Parsi addressed shifting global power dynamics, US foreign policy toward China, structural domestic pressures in Washington, and the strategic miscalculations surrounding the ongoing US conflict with Iran.
Parsi noted that while many analysts declare the arrival of a post-American world, the transition will not be an abrupt moment. Instead, he described a phased emergence where it becomes clear that no single superpower possesses deterministic influence over global affairs.
Parsi observed that many governments have been slow to internalize this reality or adjust their policies accordingly, creating the superficial illusion that a unipolar system remains intact. “Whether it’s fully multipolar or other configurations, we can be debated. What I think is clear is that the unipolarity is coming to an end,” Parsi said.
“Unipolarity is an aberration, an abnormality”
Regarding Washington’s readiness for a multipolar world, Parsi asserted that the US political establishment remains unprepared and has historically denied the shift. He recalled that during the first two years of the Biden administration, describing the world as multipolar was dismissed as a Russian propaganda narrative.
However, Parsi highlighted a shift under US Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who stated in a February 2025 interview that unipolarity was an anomaly. Parsi explained, “He actually went further. He said that unipolarity is an aberration, an abnormality, a historical accident. If you believe that it’s a historical accident, if you believe that it’s an abnormality, then I think it comes from that, that any effort to try to restore unipolarity should be rejected.”
Addressing US policy toward China, Parsi noted that despite the summit between US President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping in Beijing, there is no structural indication that Washington views Beijing as a potential partner rather than a rival.
He contrasted the Biden administration’s aggressive posture—which assumed an existential struggle for dominance—with the Trump administration’s softer but poorly planned approach.
Parsi argued that neither power can decisively defeat the other, making mutual coexistence and co-governance essential to avoid a catastrophic zero-sum confrontation.
“An effort to indefinitely contain China is a recipe for disaster”
Parsi rejected the feasibility of military containment against Beijing, warning of severe consequences. “I think an effort to indefinitely contain China is a recipe that will bring about great power competition and a confrontation between the US and China that is going to be completely disastrous,” Parsi stated.
He observed that despite significant US strategic errors, such as the conflict with Iran, China has exercised restraint rather than exploiting American vulnerabilities. Parsi argued that if Beijing were dead-set on aggressive power competition, it would have acted differently.
Economically, Parsi argued that containing China through tariffs or Soviet-era containment models is a losing proposition.
Unlike the Soviet Union, which maintained an isolated economic model, China is deeply integrated into global trade and serves as the primary trading partner for most nations, including those in Latin America such as Brazil. Parsi emphasized that economic containment is unviable against a state with such vast global integration.
“This confrontation will be the deadliest conflict in human history”
Evaluating the risk of the “Thucydides Trap,” Parsi criticized the Washington foreign policy establishment for its structural inability to envision peaceful coexistence.
He noted that the political culture in Washington is built around zero-sum competition and conflict rather than diplomatic management.
Parsi emphasized that while historical precedents exist, humanity is not bound to repeat them, particularly when the stakes involve existential risks. Parsi warned that an unmanaged confrontation between the US and China “would be the deadliest conflict in human history if it is allowed to happen,” threatening human survival itself.
Parsi attributed this narrow strategic focus to structural domestic forces, particularly the US military-industrial complex and influential lobbying groups. Working alongside the grand strategy of liberal hegemony, these forces require US military dominance worldwide, especially in Asia.
Parsi explained that institutional inertia makes it extraordinarily difficult for Washington to alter its strategic trajectory.
“The US had an unrealistic plan A and no plan B”
Turning to the conflict with Iran, Parsi asserted that Washington lacks a coherent strategy, having relied on an unrealistic plan that failed within the first three days.
He stated that the US expected a swift regime collapse or surrender within four days, but faced horizontal escalation from Iran, including threats to the Strait of Hormuz and regional strikes.
“The United States had a very unrealistic plan A and no plan B, and it’s been stuck in that situation ever since,” Parsi said, adding that Washington has been improvising and executing tactical operations without strategic success.
Parsi attributed President Trump’s shifting decisions on Iran to this absence of strategy and his personal demand for immediate results. When military action failed to yield swift progress, Trump turned to diplomacy, only to lose patience within three weeks and resume military strikes. Parsi questioned whether the global community could afford a superpower acting in such an erratic manner.
“Without Israel’s push, there would not have been a war with Iran”
Addressing Israel’s role, Parsi stated that Israeli pressure was a decisive factor in driving US policy toward confrontation with Iran.
“Without Israel’s push, there would not have been a war with Iran. Without Trump agreeing to the Israelis, there would not have been a war with Iran. Both of them were needed,” Parsi remarked, noting that Israeli efforts since 1995 elevated Iran into a primary US national security concern disproportionate to actual US interests in the region.
Parsi identified a growing divergence between US and Israeli interests in the Middle East. While the US benefits from reducing its regional military footprint of 50,000 troops, Israel requires continuous US military presence and intervention to maintain a favorable regional balance of power.
Parsi noted that this divergence has created a visible rift between Washington and Tel Aviv following the poor execution of the war and subsequent diplomatic maneuvers.
“Israel’s standing amongst the American public has plummeted”
Parsi highlighted a major shift in American public opinion regarding Israel, noting that sympathy for Palestinians has surpassed sympathy for Israel across almost every demographic category, except Republicans over the age of 65.
He attributed this decline directly to Israel’s military actions in Gaza and its perceived role in drawing the US into a disastrous war with Iran, which mirrored earlier public grievances over the Iraq War.
Regarding a resolution to the conflict, Parsi stated that a dignified exit for both the US and Iran remains possible, though the window is narrowing due to personal hostility and political miscalculations.
Finally, addressing Trump’s political image, Parsi clarified that Trump was never strictly anti-war, but rather anti-risk.
He explained that Trump entered the conflict because Israeli officials convinced him that war with Iran posed little risk and would be concluded within 100 hours. Parsi concluded that had Trump not been misled into believing the operation would be a swift success, he would not have initiated it.
Interview
Why did Trump step back from a decision to launch a new attack on Iran?
Conflicting statements from the US and Iran regarding the potential resumption of diplomatic negotiations have emerged, while ongoing tensions in the Strait of Hormuz have once again brought global energy concerns to the fore.
Addressing these developments on the Harici live broadcast of Strategic Compass, international relations scholar Prof. Dr. Hasan Unal and Alptekin Dursunoglu, journalist, author, and Editor-in-Chief of Yakin Dogu Haber (YDH), evaluated the internal, regional, and strategic dimensions of the conflict. The discussion focused on the shift in Iran’s military doctrine, the political strain within the US administration, the economic vulnerability of Gulf monarchies, and the broader realignments reshaping Middle Eastern geopolitics.
Why did Trump step back from a decision to launch a new attack on Iran?
Opening the discussion, Prof. Dr. Hasan Unal offered a sharp critique of the political rhetoric originating from Washington, contrasting executive declarations with the tactical outcomes on the ground. Unal argued that public statements made by former US President Donald Trump increasingly lack analytical consistency, complicating efforts to decipher official US strategy.
“He has reached a point where he tells more lies than the daily meowing of stray cats,” Unal remarked during the broadcast. “I do not know which part of his statements we ought to analyze, but if we evaluate him within a broader framework, it becomes possible to reach certain conclusions.”
Unal described the military confrontation between Washington and Tehran as an uneven cycle of escalation, noting that US forces continue to suffer casualties and incur immense financial costs without altering the strategic baseline. “The situation has effectively transformed into something like a defeated wrestler who never grows tired of wrestling; America repeatedly approaches and confronts Iran, yet the outcome is obvious from the outset,” Unal stated. He added that American military personnel are being deployed into conflict zones where national interests remain obscure: “I am certain that American soldiers there largely believe they have no personal interests at stake… and that it serves at most the interests of Israel.”
Dursunoglu contextualised the current phase of hostilities as part of an extended campaign, comparing the recent clashes to a second round of a broader regional conflict following earlier engagements in 2025. He noted that despite assertive claims from Washington regarding the destruction of Iranian military infrastructure, operational continuity on the Iranian side forced a shift in US messaging.
Reflecting on official declarations from US Central Command (CENTCOM) and executive statements following intensive strikes, Unal highlighted the internal contradictions in Washington’s narrative: “Trump claimed Iranian naval forces were sent to the bottom of the sea, the air force beyond the atmosphere, and the ground forces deep into the magma. Yet suddenly he declared, ‘I have forgiven Iran,’ while CENTCOM figures suggested they had reached ‘target saturation’—as if there was simply nothing left to hit.”
Is Iran insisting on its conditions regarding the Strait of Hormuz?
A central focus of the analysis was Iran’s response mechanism following the breakdown of initial ceasefire frameworks. Dursunoglu highlighted a significant structural transition in Tehran’s military posture, moving from traditional reactive containment to proactive deterrence across multiple theatres.
Dursunoglu pointed out that during the escalation, Iran did not restrict its target matrix to immediate points of contact. Instead, Iranian forces conducted strikes against US installations and logistical networks across the region, including facilities in Bahrain, Kuwait, Jordan, and Oman.
“Iran’s traditional defence doctrine was defensive and based on proportional retaliation,” Dursunoglu explained. “However, after the US halted strikes, Iran proceeded to target assets in Jordan and Kuwait without immediate prior attacks on those specific vectors. This indicates that Iran has begun executing preemptive strikes, effectively adapting its strategic posture.”
Unal underscored the severity of these strikes on regional logistics, noting that Iranian counter-strikes targeted the port of Aqaba and airport infrastructure in Jordan, alongside American operational facilities in the Gulf. “According to the accounts, Iranian forces began hitting American installations in Gulf states and Jordan within minutes of initial strikes, effectively neutralizing the operational depth the US relied upon,” Unal noted.
The operational status of the Strait of Hormuz remains a decisive point of leverage. Under previous draft frameworks negotiated through Omani mediation, administrative oversight of maritime traffic through the Strait was slated to transition to Iran in coordination with regional littoral states. However, subsequent US efforts to establish an independent naval corridor along the Omani coast triggered a fresh wave of Iranian interdictions.
Dursunoglu outlined the ongoing negotiations surrounding the maritime passage, noting that attempts to bypass Iranian oversight proved unviable for commercial shipping. Under the latest proposals under discussion via Omani channels, incoming maritime traffic into the Gulf would pass through Iranian-designated corridors under Iranian authorization, while outgoing traffic would proceed along Omani coastal waters following notification and approval.
“If an agreement is finalized on these terms, it represents an explicit recognition of Iran’s control over the Strait of Hormuz by the US regime,” Dursunoglu said. He noted that while initial terms provided free passage during a temporary 60-day window, long-term frameworks anticipate structured administrative mechanisms for commercial vessels. Unal added: “Whether designated as transit fees, environmental charges, or security provisions, formalizing maritime oversight secures a permanent structural advantage for Tehran.”
Under what conditions will negotiations begin?
The economic ramifications of maritime disruption have also altered the calculations of Gulf export nations. Following attempts by Saudi Arabia to engage Ansar Allah (Houthi) forces in Yemen, retaliatory actions against critical infrastructure—including the Yanbu crude oil pipeline on the Red Sea—severely constrained alternative export routes.
“By drawing Yemeni forces back into active conflict, Saudi Arabia inadvertently placed its secondary export avenues under direct fire,” Unal observed. “The vulnerability of the Yanbu pipeline demonstrates that reliance on the Gulf cannot be bypassed easily, effectively increasing regional dependence on stability within the Strait.”
Beyond the maritime domain, the broadcast addressed heavy Iranian military engagements in northern Iraq, targeting opposition groups including the Kurdistan Democratic Party of Iran (KDPI), Komala, Pak, and Free Life Party of Kurdistan (PJAK) along the Erbil-Suleimaniyeh axis.
Dursunoglu and Unal noted that cross-border strikes destroyed substantial ammunition depots established near border regions, followed by reported ground operations conducted by specialized Iranian units.
“Iranian special forces executed targeted ground operations across the border,” Dursunoglu stated, pointing to secondary explosions captured in operational footage as evidence of extensive pre-positioned armaments.
Unal noted that these operations underscored the strategic limitations of non-state actors aligned with Washington: “The expectations placed on armed factions in northern Iraq collapsed when confronted with direct military pressure. The narrative that these groups could serve as an internal wedge against Tehran proved to be a costly miscalculation for US planners.”
Reports indicating the start of a repositioning of US personnel and heavy military equipment from bases in Iraq and the Gulf toward Jordan and Israel were identified as a direct consequence of this vulnerability. “US forces are consolidating toward Jordan and Israel because their facilities in Bahrain and Kuwait sustained structural operational damage,” Dursunoglu observed. “When a state can no longer defend its forward command centers—such as the 5th Fleet infrastructure in Bahrain—it is forced to retreat to secondary defensive perimeters.”
How effective is the pressure from Gulf countries for negotiations?
Concluding the evaluation, Unal and Dursunoglu examined the broader diplomatic landscape, focusing on security dialogues among regional powers, including Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan. Both analysts agreed that any sustainable security architecture in the Middle East must incorporate Iran rather than seek its exclusion.
“How can you construct a new regional order by excluding the very nation that demonstrated the capacity to neutralize external military dominance?” Dursunoglu questioned. “An architecture that relies on Western guarantees or Israeli alignment fails to address the underlying security dynamics of the region.”
Unal reflected on the historical trajectories of Turkish foreign policy, criticizing past ideological approaches that fuelled regional fragmentation and sect-based antagonisms. He noted that realpolitik dictates close functional coordination between Ankara and Tehran despite historical differences.
“Iran’s resistance ultimately prevented the imposition of a security framework dictated entirely by external actors,” Unal concluded. “Responsible analysis requires recognizing that stability in the Middle East cannot be achieved through foreign intervention or regional fragmentation, but through direct, autonomous security coordination among the region’s core nations.”
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